Before MusicRadar I worked on guitar magazines for 15 years, including Editor of Total Guitar. The Official Marshall Studio Classic Thread Sc20. Said to supply the BE-100s classic Friedman sound in a small, compact and lightweight package, the Pink Taco V2 head is according to the company a 20-watt EL84 single-channel fire breather, with a particular sonic penchant for blues, classic rock and metal. SOLD - Friedman PT-20 Pink Taco - V1 with gain structure switch - SOLD, I own DSL20 and 40cr. I've played a PT20. It may not display this or other websites correctly. If I understand correctly the PT20 has more gain than the Dirty Shirley Mini? I love my DSM. You may have to register With a pair of EL84 power tubes and three 12AX7s pushing the preamp section, the Minis goal is clearly British-flavored classic rock tones. Friedman Jerry Cantrell JJ Junior Signature 20W 112 Tube Guitar Combo Amp. I don't know what low gain means. Powered by 2 x EL84 power tubes and 3 x 12AX7 . It's available as an all-tube head or 1x12 combo and features a pair of x EL84 power tubes, a trio of 12AX7 preamp tubes, master volume and gain controls plus a three-band EQ. JavaScript is disabled. You are using an out of date browser. Its the little sister of Friedman Amplifications Dirty Shirley combo, which clocks in at 40 watts and 52 pounds, with a single 12" Celestion G12M Creamback speaker. Brandon Ellis laid down the gauntlet to Jacksons Master Builders with this 27-fret Gold Crackle Kelly is this one of the most challenging custom builds ever made? You are using an out of date browser. Has about the same gain as the BE100 BE channel.. 1299.00 also Has a great cab sim out and the 20 has a built in load, so you can use it with no cab if needed. Thank you for reading 5 articles this month*, US pricing $3.99 per month or $39.00 per year, UK pricing 2.99 per month or 29.00 per year, Europe pricing 3.49 per month or 34.00 per year, *Read 5 free articles per month without a subscription. If I love the 2203..which Friedman will I love? I got GAS for a Friedman and not sure on the main adv and disadv of a PT vs Runt 20. Nov 20, 2020. Pros: The Pink Taco came out at $1499 and the cab was $599 but both are well worth the money. Okay - your thread got me to go check out the Friedman offerings. From the Pete Thorn video above it's clearly great for harmonically rich Eddie Van Halen tones. And the Mini sounded really strong in my home practice space. I'm the Guitars Editor for MusicRadar, handling news, reviews, features, tuition, advice for the strings side of the site and everything in between. You are using an out of date browser. 2,111. The power switch is a simple on/off with no standby. All that said. We already know Dave Friedman's modded take on Marshall tones results in some incredible rock toneage so bringing it to more people with the latest Pink Taco Mk II and Little Sister 20-watt tube amps is great news. Mar 6, 2015. Mr Thorn has helpfully demoed this one too, and proves again why he's one of the very best demo players in the business, pointing out how the Little Sister is pretty much a replacement for the previous mini Dirty Shirley with the added Bright switch of the two-channel Twin Sister. Whole Lotta Shirley Believe me when I say that some of the most amazing music in history was made on equipment that's not as good as what you own right now. But, both are amazing, IMO. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Heres how it works. I've currently set aside any pipe dreams of getting anywhere with my own songs and I am enjoying playing covers in function bands. Hello Coronado, the "sE" is a Reflection Filter there is Acoustic Foam on the inside and the fixture is holding two microphones a SM57 & Ribbon. In the middle, the amp is at its cleanest, with lots of headroom and a tone thats rich but doesnt get nasty and spanking until the gain control climbs to about 7, with the master at noon. So the smaller version might have that, too. The Mini feels as if it could take a plunge at a load-in and still start right up (at least after the rush of horror from dropping a $1,799 amp faded). The Mini is comparatively bantamweightjust 30 pounds and pumping 20 watts of output through a 10", 25-watt Celestion Greenback. I am somewhat intrigued by the PT but would only buy a used one when the price comes down. The deciding factor for me was needing the fatness and bass response. Bath Based on the demos I've heard my pick would be the JJjr. Both of these 20-watt all-tube mini amp heads now have a few added controls. If your looking to get the same tones in a smaller package I'd say either the PT20 or Runt 20. Runt 20 is a BE channel and a simple clean with a 20 watt power section. With each arriving in both amp head and combo formats, the brands newest offerings update its existing Mini Dirty Shirley and Pink Taco units, promising to provide a swathe of versatile tonal options. This may help you decide. When Nashville got one of the first DSM amps in, I spend hours AB'ing both PT20 and the then new DSM. If this is your first visit, be sure to tone forum. The Little Sister and Pink Taco Mk II are both available in head and combo models. Re: Friedman Dirty Shirley Mini VS Pink Taco Personally, I'd hold out for a regular Dirty Shirley head and 212 cab. BA1 1UA. JavaScript is disabled. I don't think it sounds like the BE side of the Smallbox. Ozzy Osbourne names his dream supergroup and it features three guitarists, Joe Bonamassa plays AC/DCs Back in Black like youve never heard it before in this soulful rhythm n blues reimagining, The Lowlist: INXS's Kick was the sound of a rock band taking on modern technology. You must log in or register to reply here. #6. You are using an out of date browser. Both amps way over priced IMO. WTF! PS, the Pink Taco is 1233 USD and the Suhr Badger 30 is 1490 USD. I know the Runt has the XLR stuff, but I'm curious on your take on which one is better for you. Thoughts? All rights reserved. 3-position gain structure switch for toggling between modern and vintage tones. I've played a Runt 50 and they are great. 11 guitarists who shaped Derek Trucks' sound, Revv relaunches its Dynamis Series with US-voiced, Two Notes Torpedo-equipped D25 combo, Watch Dream Theaters Jordan Rudess sing the praises of the amazing LAVA ME 3 acoustic-electric guitar, Line 6 adds Dumble-style tones in free Helix firmware update sure to please fans of John Mayer, Joe Bonamassa and David Gilmour, Eric Andrs advice for aspiring upright bass players: Dont play it. $269.99 Your Preferred Price Just listen to Pete Thorn's demo of the Pink Taco 20-watt head "no pedal required" indeed! Budget-Friendly, Baltic Birch Construction. select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. Friedman Dirty Shirley 40 - 40-watt Tube Head 1-channel, 40-watt Guitar Tube Amplifier Head with Custom Transformers, 3-band EQ, and Effects Loop . Variety of classic tones via three gain stages. I'm from Brazil and will come to the USA soon, and hope to find all them on a local store to try side by side. Some of the add-ons on this site are powered by. #2. The Saturation circuit allows for more of an aggressive metal tone. Just contact Dave Friedman directly or Teddy at Make'n Music and they will make you a 240v version like mine. With each arriving in both amp head and combo formats, the brand's newest offerings update its existing Mini Dirty Shirley and Pink Taco units, promising to provide a swathe of versatile tonal options. Amped-up iterations of the Mini Dirty Shirley and BE-100-inspired Pink Taco feature two EL84 power tubes, a trio of 12AX7 preamp tubes and a host of new voices. Dave's first production amplifier, the BE-100, is criticality acclaimed and one on the most in demand British high gain meets vintage amps on the market today. This page was generated at 08:16 PM. Notably, only the latter can be found on the flagship Pink Taco the first two are new appointments. Friedman PT V2 20-watt Mini Tube Head 20-watt, 1-channel Tube Head with 3-band EQ, Gain Structure Switch, Sat and Fat Switches, and FX Loop $1,499.99. November 2013. Both my Brown Eye and Pink Taco are 240v and work and sound fab! I viewed some youtube comparisons and in one of them the breakup of the PT seemed a bit fizzier than the DS. That amp is such a tone monster, I'd always feel like the mini was a waste of money. Kind of like the Marshall SV-20 and SC-20, maybe? Ed A; Feb 17, 2022; DSM almost seems to have more clarity with a bit of low-end girth and punchy mids, just classic rock and blues tones for days. How does Friedman BE 100's little brother PINK TACO compares to Dirty Shirley's little sister MINI DIRTY SHIRLEY?Thanks to MusiX for the loan of these fantas. I own a BE, Dirty Shirley 40, Dirty Shirley Mini and incoming Smallbox. Amp guru Dave Friedmans latest, the Dirty Shirley Mini, is a new addition to that genus. As a subscriber enjoy big savings off the shop price! To start viewing messages, Yall know how I feel about amps,brother! Also, the tubes are mounted horizontally to save space. And the Marshall sounds exactly like an 800. Future Publishing Limited Quay House, The Ambury, It's all about vintage classic rock tones, with less of the high-gain action of the Taco. It's so hard to tell on youtube though. Most things I play by choice have too many low string runs, and I have to have the option of great bass response. Future Publishing Limited Quay House, The Ambury, The Smallbox is my favorite amp of all time. The low end of the Mini Shirley seems to be a little pickier about speakers than the Pink Taco. Help needed verifying plate dissipation/Cathode resistor value for 6V6. Cleans up better than the PT20 I think. Since I play so may different styles of music, which of the two you think will also go more modern rock, punk and not metal, but closer to it, with a TS in front? The new Friedman Little Sister Head is an updated Mini Dirty Shirley, and the Pink Taco V2 does the same for the Pink Taco head. Mighty but small. I have a Smallbox and a DSM. I own a BE, Dirty Shirley 40, Dirty Shirley Mini and incoming Smallbox. The Pink Taco has more of the upper mids that the Studio Vintage has, there are some Greg Koch clips kicking around where plays a bunch of Zeppelin riffs. If you want some cleans and plenty of gain that covers blues to even metal with the bass off and gain dimed, the DS Mini would be the obvious choice, cause it can be dialed in for most all tones. Some Guitar Centers have these in stock for you to try if you can get to one. Plays Well With Others? The Pink Taco gets great reviews & it also runs the EL84 Power Tubes, so I can't see any issues with the Dirty Shirley Mini running EL84's. Have a look at the comments that Brett (Brettk7 - Eddie's Guitars) made about the DS Mini on this Forum. Friedman's Pink Taco V2 amp head will set you back $1,499, while the combo version carries a price tag of $1,799. Angus tone is closer to the DS, Slash (JCM800/Jubilee) DS to Runt, but now his song "You should be mine" from the Terminator movie would be closer to the Pink Taco. Black. One can never have too many amps!! Any guitarist who has lugged around 4x12s, Super Reverbs, or other heavy-ass combos and stacks in search of big, meaty tones can appreciate the trend toward small amps that snarl. I know the Pink Taco well and have spent probably an hour with the mini Shirley. I had a regular Pink Taco and a Wildwood one. But OD, delay, phase, vibrato, and ambient reverb sounded clear with high-gain settings, tooalthough the overdrive understandably had little effect on tone color in the Shirley Minis highest gain stage. Talk with your fellow tone freaks on the web's liveliest (and friendliest!) Another 20-watt all-tube head, the Little Sister is the, um, little sister of Friedman's 40-watt Twin Sister. Again, the combo differs only with the appointment of a Celestion 16 Ohm 12 G12M-65 Creamback speaker. before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. Tech experts from Seymour Duncan are regularly on this forum, and are clearly labeled as employees of Seymour Duncan. From my experience still owning a BE100 and was looking for the best Friedman 20 watter that had more open classic tone and an amp I can get a killer blues and rock tones out of, I went with the Dirty Shirley Mini. 1) The price difference is because the Runts are PCB while the DSM and PT are hand wired. As it reads basically. The Runt, from what I've heard of pricing, will still be $400-500 more than the minis. The biggest difference between the Mini and full size DS in terms of tonality and feel is the tube-type. If you are looking for AFD / ACDC the DSM has that in spades. Friedman BE-Mini Guitar Amp Head. I would say the Shirley benefits from a lower wattage speaker, probably like 15 to 30 watts as it seems to give up the good dirt as lower volume than the Pink Taco. $$. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Friedman Runt 20 Combo Friedman Mini Dirty Shirley Combo Friedman Small Box 1x12 Combo TAD Tube Kit - Friedman Brown Eye 100 BE-100 $ 228.00; For what you stated the "Mini DS" would cover best (little closer to Plexi) also the Runt (closer to JCM800) can do the same but with a bit more gain. For what you stated the "Mini DS" would cover best (little closer to Plexi) also the Runt (closer to JCM800) can do the same but with a bit more gain. L *SOLD* FRIEDMAN Pink Taco PT-20 MINT. Sorry Marshall I'll take a Dirty Shirley any day of the week Lol! Thats what the builder recommends in the manual, identifying that setting as the Friedman sound. I began with the gain/master at 5/5, and once I cranked the gain to 7, Id have been perfectly content if Id never touched a dial or switch again. FRIEDMAN20wMINI DIRTY SHIRLEY 20PT-20 . When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. How does Friedman BE 100's little brother PINK TACO compares to Dirty Shirley's little sister MINI DIRTY SHIRLEY?Thanks to MusiX for the loan of these fantastic amps: Pink taco: http://bit.ly/3limsDU Mini Dirty Shirley: http://bit.ly/38INnUhhttps://www.musix.com/ch/en/Use my affiliate link to get a 15% discount from Bogren Digital IR packs: https://bogrendigital.com/?ref=Z9Abn2UFq4hhDSome of my music (Spotify):- Solo stuff: http://spoti.fi/2JF1FvL- Cyhra: http://spoti.fi/3obAbNt- Red Wolf: http://spoti.fi/3pO6Zwr- Godsplague: http://spoti.fi/2X8POckYou can follow me also on:https://www.facebook.com/eugeofficial/https://www.instagram.com/Euge230V/https://twitter.com/Euge230VCYHRA: http://cyhra.com/Timecodes:- Intro: 0:00- The Song: 0:23- Noodling with both amps | EVH Frankenstrat: 2:32- General info: 4:11- Comparing the amps | EVH Frankenstrat: 6:00- The gear \u0026 signal chain: 10:23- Noodling with both amps | ESP Eclipse: 11:52- The back panels: 13:54- Conclusion: 14:06- How loud they actually are: 14:58#EugeValovirta #Friedman #PinkTacoMiniDirtyShirley No reverb. (I did, and the answer is very!). MusicRadar is part of Future plc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. I can wait. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. PRESS RELEASE. They are here to help. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I haven't played a Maz in a dozen years though, at only loud house volumes, and I don't have a very good memory, sorry. A little brighter and edgier and don't have quite the warmth and swirl of the smallbox or BE but its in the ballpark. Friedman's definitely have that British Marshall sound and definitely a nice twangy clean channel as well, definitely more mid-range sound wise. England and Wales company registration number 2008885. This aims to redefine what an EL84-powered amp can deliver. Theyre just above the underside of that panel, but easily accessible. FriedmanLittle Sister Head $1,499.99 The Pink Taco in the lowest gain setting I would say is more in the ballpark of the Studio Vintage than the Mini Dirty Shirley. The combo, meanwhile, is practically identical the same interior appointments and control set make the cut though makes use of a Celestion 16 Ohm 12 G12M-65 Creamback speaker. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Both sounds great, but I only played the PT without the gain switch. Easy to use. The Shirley is no retiring kid sister. I've found it really helps to get a "Cleaner" overall tone with way less artifacts. Little Sister. Videos coming this month while thinks are shipping to stores.. You must log in or register to reply here. Friedman Runt 20 and Runt 50 - A/B Test and full review, WTS: Friedman Pink Taco PT-20 20 watt amp head, SOLD - Friedman PT-20 Pink Taco - V1 with gain structure switch - SOLD, are Gibson Les Pauls mainly for collectors? I chose the Dirty Shirley Mini on December/2017 and I'm completely in love! I like the Dirty Shirley mini more than the full size. A British-flavoured vintage take on high-gain, the Pink Taco takes that concept forward in a compact and light format. Despite all that goodness, the lil Shirleys 10" speaker does sound a tad compressed to my 12"-speaker-conditioned ears, so I couldnt resist plugging the Minis power section into a Sam Hill custom pine cabinet loaded with a 50-watt 12" Eminence. I've had two tacos and two runts(50 and now a 20). You are using an out of date browser. My Les Paul is the leading online community and marketplace for Les Paul guitar fans. Aug 25, 2017. All sounded fully and correctly voiced via the Dirty Shirley Minis Celestion, although the power, tonal depth, and sustain the amp exhibited with humbuckers was truly a joy. . https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/2536A. With pedals, the lowest gain setting was, as expected, ideal. Pink Taco V2. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I missed the standby function when switching instruments, but my tuner pedal did the job amiably. Friedman Little Sister Sturdy. I've got 60 guitarsbut 49 trumpets is justINSANITY! The Verdict Although different tubes and rectifier in Dirty Sh. We may earn a commission on any affiliated purchases. Damn, the agony of choice continues. Some of the add-ons on this site are powered by. The USA-built cab features tongue and groove Baltic Birch construction, and the combo houses a 16 ohm, 12 Celestion Creamback G12M-65 speaker. Also, as expected, things were quieter when my pedalboard was plugged into the effects loop rather than straight into the front end. Jul 11, 2017. lwk5150. You must log in or register to reply here. In my opinion, unless you need to additional channel or functionality, you're going to get a LOT from the minis and you'll save a ton of cash. Friedman Pink Taco 20W 110 Tube Guitar Combo Amp. The Dirty Shirley Mini rocks! An ideal amp for blues, rock, and metal. How Jeff Beck passed the Telecaster torch to Jimmy Page and changed the course of rock history, Nuno Bettencourt says Prince once called him one of the top three guitar players in the world. I can never have enough gain. October 20, 2022. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Friedman Dirty Shirley 1X12 Cab. DSM! Been eying the pink taco amp for a while but just noticed the dirty Shirley mini. The only pedal that performed differently in the loop was my OD, which needed a bit more output for unity. JavaScript is disabled. On its own.Friedman is better, warmer. Friedman. Making these already great-sounding tube amps even more flexible. WTS: Friedman Pink Taco PT-20 20 watt amp head. Afraid I can't get to Wildwood. How about a Scumback Black back 65? The ultimate beginner's guide. lwk5150; Jul 8, 2017; Member Classifieds; Replies 2 Views 481. #55. OK, I know a little bit about both amps and this is what I can tell you. Even if there's not chance I'll use it in between practices. What are you waiting for. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Friedman Amplification Dirty Shirley Minifriedmanamplification.com. I returned it after a month. Boutique guitar amp builder Friedman has unveiled the latest additions to its amp head and combo catalogs: the Pink Taco V2 and Little Sister. Many of the above appointments can be found here, such as the two EL84 power tubes and three 12AX7 preamp tubes, as well as a fairly straightforward control set comprising Bass, Middle, Treble, Master and Gain parameters. The Gear Page is the leading online community and marketplace for guitars, amps, pedals, effects and associated gear. Must work with loud drummer at practise and for live gigs on places like for 50-300 people. Yeah I'd like to see a 2 channel DSM. JavaScript is disabled. I'm from the USA and should go to Brazil ! I know a regular Dirty Shirley has amazing cleans with just the volume knob. I think that i actually like the G12H-30 a bit more and have been getting great results with it from a variety of amps. Years in the making, perfect the sound and tonal experience in a smaller format. Runt is pcb constructed and you get a discount for it. Visit our corporate site (opens in new tab). Highlights from the new drop include the extra voicing switches of the Pink Taco V2, amping up its predecessor's feature set, and some new sleek aesthetics. FriedmanLittle Sister Combo $1,799.99, FriedmanPink Taco V2 Head $1,499.99 Ive played all three and the DSM smokes them all! What would you recommend from the Friedman Pink Taco vs the Suhr Badger 30 head when the sound Im after is: The Darkness/Thin Lizzy/Pearl Jam/Rival Sons/Foo Fighters. I hear the PT20 is kind of a mine Brown Eye channel. But it was more fun to flick the gain stages around, roll off all the mids while cranking the treble and bass to 10, or to turn both those dials to zero and the mids to 10, or play with the treble on 10 and the bass/mids off, or just bass. I feel the amp shines on lower gain side but can do higher gain on its own as well. I was never able to get much from the Pink Taco unless it was louder than home practice volume. Same exact price. The Taco has such an immediacy to the attack. Maybe the boards are made elsewhere? Friedman will add those mods if you like. the PT can do much of the same as the two but it can also do "Hair Metal" (General Metal) Closer to a Modified JCM800 w/more gain. Therefore, it may be a bit of a stretch. I would guess the PT to be more different. Heres how it works. Aug 27, 2017. The DSM has many tones available and AC/DC is most definitely one of them. Oh and by the way. Didn't bond with it. The Dirty Shirley Minis look is signature Friedman: a recessed control panel at the top rear, silver-and-black grille cloth, and a spare but elegant exterior, with black vinyl snugly fitted to its sturdy cabinet. The combo option features Celestion 16 Ohm 12 G12M-65 Creamback speaker (Combo) with the weight for that coming in at 45lbs and 22lbs for the head. The Shirley is no retiring kid sister. Messages. FriedmanPink Taco V2 Combo $1,799.99, More info at Friedman Amplification (opens in new tab), Don't miss the latest deals, news, reviews, features and tutorials. I have cranked both the Mini Shirley and Pink Taco with the DS cab and the PT cab. How cool is it to be able to add a 12" extension cab to the Mini? He has a Masters in the guitar, a degree in history, and has spent the last 16 years playing everything from blues and jazz to indie and pop. An 'ultra-transparent series FX loop' welcomes your time-based effects pedals to the party and there's 4, 8 and 16 ohm jacks. There's a couple good Youtube videos of the PT vs DSM on Youtube. . Re: Friedman schematics. JCM 2000 DSL 50 - Perfect amp for me - Late to the party! Like the Pink Taco Mk II it's an EL84 powered, single-channel head or 1x12 combo based on its 40-watt predecessor with an S-Switch for the gain structure and this time a B Switch to switch between Bright and Tight modes that will take you into harder rock territory.

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